Sugar maple

[Angus 1895]

Hello I am wanting to expand the amount of sugar maples on the property.

Where is a good source?

do deer feed on the seeds?

thanks in advance

 

[Bowsnbucks]

Cold Stream Farm in Michigan has sugar maple seedlings. I've purchased various seedlings from them over several years and their stock has always been good. I have an order from them coming in April.

 

[ruskbucks]

Paint creek nursery. Not sure if they eat the seeds, but the trees definitely need protection.

 

[b116757]

We have a 40acre sugarbush in the family. Deer do not utilize the seeds that I can ever remember seeing. For syrup production more hard maples are great for deer I’d plant oaks or fruit trees. I’m curious why you want more hard maple?

 

[Angus 1895]

We have a 40acre sugarbush in the family. Deer do not utilize the seeds that I can ever remember seeing. For syrup production more hard maples are great for deer I’d plant oaks or fruit trees. I’m curious why you want more hard maple?

Hard maple I e curly maple is very valuable. My wife loves the colors in fall. Sugar maples are not nearly as toxic to horses as red maple. I have seen carp eat the seeds but I read the deer do also due to how large they are

 

[b116757]

You would be lucky to get 2 curly hard maple on a 40 acre stand of maple trees,

 

[Bowsnbucks]

curly maple is very valuable

As a fact of life / nature - red maple is MUCH more likely to show curly figure in its grain than hard maple. I've read about figured maple quite a bit due to my woodworking hobby / retirement play. Research figured maple online. I currently have a nice batch of curly red maple in my stash at my home. I got it for FREE from a township yard-waste dump site where tree trimmings and tree "waste" is ground into mulch. The crotch figure & curly figure in some of the "waste" is spectacular!!!!

 

[Teeder]

Did someone say curly maple?

 

[Angus 1895]

WOW I had no idea…..

thanks for the insight.

 

[Teeder]

I save all the hard maples on my place unless they are a cull tree or crowding an oak or black cherry. I'm sure deer eat the leaves and probably browse on young ones, but I wouldn't plant one specifically for deer. Red or as we call call them, soft maples, are a favorite of mine to hinge cut. I dropped a bunch just before this snow dropped and the deer are hitting them hard.

 

[b116757]

If your far enough south Scarlet Oak may be your tree of choice red fall colors and acorns for deer win win

 

[b116757]

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[Angus 1895]

What determines the curly factor in maples?

we have a few red maples but like I say we have mules so the red maples are a toxic concern.

I live in zone 5a and I have flood irrigation that lately is under pressure.

we have some sprinkler irrigation but not covering the whole farm.

 

[Angus 1895]

We already have pin oaks on the property and my wife loves their fall color.

I will take your advice and try some scarlet oak, however the ph of my soil is about 7.3.

 

[Teeder]

We already have pin oaks on the property and my wife loves their fall color.

I will take your advice and try some scarlet oak, however the ph of my soil is about 7.3.

I've planted some northern red/shumard hybrids that have beautiful red fall color. Bought them from wildlife heritage tree nursery.

 

[b116757]

GGoogle Dr gene Wengert University of Wisconsin I believe he is active on Woodweb.com sawing and drying forum he is probably your best bet at a good answer.

 

[b116757]

There is also a scholarly paper written by the Northern Research Station about Birdseye maple that is probably applicable to Curly maple as well

 

[Bowsnbucks]

What determines the curly factor in maples?

I'm not qualified to give you accurate answers, but I've read that frequent flexing of the trees in windy locations causes a "ripple" effect in the grain of the wood. I think there are several reasons for the "curly" factor - now I'll have to do more reading on the subject!!!! I'm curious.

 

[Angus 1895]

Thanks!
I just love curly maple gunstocks!