LC mix without a drill

Rally1148

5 year old buck +
Hey all,

So I'm planning on planting my LC mix this weekend. As of now I'm doing the standard oats, rye, red clover, peas, and GHR. I don't have a drill, so my plan was:
1.go though and disk it up really well,
2. broadcast everything but the clover and GHR.
3. I'll probably be able to use my neighbor's cultipacker, so I'll go over it with that once.
4. broadcast the clover and GHR.
5. Cultipack again.

Does this sound like the correct procedure? It'll be the first crop I've used my own tractor!!!!
 
Right on!
 
You should be fine with that plan Rally. My question would be, does it have to be disced up "really well" or do you just want to play on your new toy?
 
You should be fine with that plan Rally. My question would be, does it have to be disced up "really well" or do you just want to play on your new toy?

Wellll, it was basically fallow this summer. So I want to get new seeds from the seedbank up and growing so I can spray them in the spring! There is also some sod, it's not grass, but a weed, but regardless, it's a pretty thick covering. I also want to turn in/under the vetch and yellow clover that is growing there to add some N for my GHR.

I do absolutely want to play on the tractor, though! I need some time to learn how to drive it (better). Remember, I've only got the disk, so it'll take a few passes to the ground in shape. I'm not trying to go down 8 inches, but I at least want a relatively smooth seed bed.
 
That's exactly how I plant it, good luck with the new toy!
 
Rally, your in MI like me right? Why waste $ on the peas this late, they'll never really get going?
 
U did spray it and kill everything first?
 
Well, Montcalm county, heck you aint but 80 mins from me. We should do something some time.
 
Rally, your in MI like me right? Why waste $ on the peas this late, they'll never really get going?
I'm just throwing them in as "candy" in areas in front of my stands. I'm also planning on using some next spring when I plant my buckwheat. Unfortunately it was a 50lb bag, so it cost a bit, but overall not bad. Also I'm going to use some with my brassicas next year as well.
We'll absolutely have to get a Michigan land tour going at some point. I think Scott44 is just up in Clare (Up for me, Over for you).

U did spray it and kill everything first?
No I did not, sir. No sprayer available for me at this time!
 
I'm just throwing them in as "candy" in areas in front of my stands. I'm also planning on using some next spring when I plant my buckwheat. Unfortunately it was a 50lb bag, so it cost a bit, but overall not bad. Also I'm going to use some with my brassicas next year as well.
We'll absolutely have to get a Michigan land tour going at some point. I think Scott44 is just up in Clare (Up for me, Over for you).


No I did not, sir. No sprayer available for me at this time!

That ain't good!
 
That ain't good!

It's alright! Remember I just got the tractor, so I'll be obtaining implements in the next year. I'm just looking for a good deal on one! Last year we didn't spray, just roto-tilled, and the oats,rye,brassica mix came up well!
 
Well, we got it done! Rather than using a cultipacker, I just disked lightly. I tried to keep it only an inch or two in the ground, but I'm sure that it got deeper in certain areas. Hopefully I didn't go too deep! Do you all think it'll be ok?

I also ran into a problem with my broadcaster! The plastic that connects the crank to the gear started to bend, so I ended up having to hand seed all of the brassicas/clover, and about 20% of the peas/rye/oats.

I used seeded heavy. for 3/4 acre I used ~45lb rye, ~45 lb oats, ~25lb AWP, 7.5lb Red Clover, and 5lb GHR. Next weekend I might come up and apply some potash and urea, but it depends on how lazy I'm feeling.

Now I've just gotta wait and hope we get rain this week! Luckily it's nice and humid, so I think that a lot of the seeds will be able to germinate, but the longer we go without it, the more the turkeys can dig up!
 
Well, I was a dummy and forgot to inoculate the AWP! Hopefully they come up since there were peas in there last year and vetch this summer.
 
AWP will be fine without inoculant. I would be more worried seeding to heavy about disking in the Clover and GFR.
 
If you disked in clover and radish a minimum of 2" deep...you won't get a decent stand of either.

Yep, usually not a good plan. Hope it works out for him.
 
If you disked in clover and radish a minimum of 2" deep...you won't get a decent stand of either.
Rally, you would have been fine and likely had just as good or better results if you would have put down the large seed, disced that in first, and then came back and broadcast the clover/radish and just left it on top. As stu said, clover and radish too deep is likely to fail, and as Mo stated AWP does not need inoculant to germinate and grow, it only needs the inoculant to fix nitrogen with it's roots. The urea will help your oats and GFR(the rye won't care and the clover and AWP don't need it) right out of the gate, so get some down if you can.
 
Rally, you would have been fine and likely had just as good or better results if you would have put down the large seed, disced that in first, and then came back and broadcast the clover/radish and just left it on top. As stu said, clover and radish too deep is likely to fail, and as Mo stated AWP does not need inoculant to germinate and grow, it only needs the inoculant to fix nitrogen with it's roots. The urea will help your oats and GFR(the rye won't care and the clover and AWP don't need it) right out of the gate, so get some down if you can.

That is exactly what I did! I just walked and broadcast/handcast the clover and radish. My mistake for not making that clearer. I was worried about the big seeds being too deep.
 
If you get some timely rain, the small seeded stuff should be fine then and I'm sure that only a percentage of your large seed will be too deep, so with the heavy rates you should still be ok. With the soil still being warm, it will have a better chance of germination and pushing up through the dirt than spring planted seeds that are too deep going into cold soils.
 
If you get some timely rain, the small seeded stuff should be fine then and I'm sure that only a percentage of your large seed will be too deep, so with the heavy rates you should still be ok. With the soil still being warm, it will have a better chance of germination and pushing up through the dirt than spring planted seeds that are too deep going into cold soils.
Woohoo! Rally's first planting!
 
Well we got some good rain. Now, when should I apply the urea? The soil still seems wet, can I broadcast it today? No rain in the forecast for the next few days though
 
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