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5 year old buck +
In search of a decent deer butcher.
How on earth do I get back only 35# of meat from a 105# field dressed doe. She was weighed on an accurate scale...she WAS 105.
1st, Please don't tell me to do it myself. I don't really have a nice, clean place to butcher my deer. Plus, I'm not fast so it just really isn't worth it to me to cut my own.
I had a great butcher for 30 years. He did a great job for a fair price, but he retired a couple years ago.
So I've just tried my 3rd butcher since. Not really happy with any of them.
Any advice on finding a good one?
 
I do know that the majority of ones that want to process whole deer are always looking to process a high number of deer fast. Quality and thoroughness are not a priority.
I would go take a quick look at potential processors a day or two after gun seasons open. If they have deer stacked up like cordwood in the parking lot in the sun, move along. At that time it’s pretty easy to see how their operation runs.
 
That's probably not that far off if you use this yield calculator. You should have gotten back 36.99 lbs.
- Pennsylvania State University, Department of Animal Science and the Pennsylvania Game Commission, 1968
Our Thanks to DEER & DEERHUNTING Magazine for the use of this information.
  • Carcass weight = Field-dressed weight divided by 1.331
  • Ideal boneless venison weight = Carcass weight multiplied by .67
  • Realistic venison yield = Ideal boneless weight multiplied by .70
I just finished butchering a young doe last night, we don't weigh ours anymore we check them in on the computer, but I got almost 20 lbs off of it, so by these calculations she weighed 55-60 lbs field dressed. She sure seemed heavier than that when I picked her up.???
My thing with butchers is they figure how many pounds they owe you and just reach in the freezer and grab X amount of ground X amount of strap and so on. It may not even be your deer. That's why I've been doing my own for the last 30 some odd years. Plus I couldn't afford it in the early years.
 
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Seems like a legit weight to me if that is boned out meat. What did you have made and how much did he charge?

I've seen lots of butcher shops and I'm more comfortable cutting it up myself so I know exactly what I'm getting. They make money with speed and I prefer quality. I'm sure some butcher shops are great, but they should be expensive if they are as picky as I would like them to be. To butcher at home the only equipment needed is a tree, rope and a cutting board that fits onto the tailgate of a truck. And beer.
 
I actually think that sounds fairly accurate, my son just shot a doe and he got 38 lbs back and it was a nice doe in MN. The butcher we used is excellent....
 
I have been using the same deer processor for the last 27 years. I would be absolutely lost if he retired. He is honest and you get back your own deer meat. His work is meticulous. I also get my suet from him for free. This alone is a huge bonus. We take some of his cow scraps and put them out on my land for the coyotes, eagles, hawks, woodpeckers, turkey vultures and anything else that likes carrion. I find by feeding the coyotes they tend to leave my deer and turkeys alone as they have full stomachs. I put the scraps out on a very distant corner of my land so it does not affect my deer hunting. Now if I could get some of my hunters to sit on the scrap piles and take out some coyotes. It just seems like everyone is just too busy now days.
Good luck on your search. I guess by eliminating the crappy butchers you might actually find a good one eventually.
 
I have helped butcher a few hundred deer over the yrs, at a friends butcher shop, and countless of my own
most people THINK they SHOULD get back a LOT more meat than they really do
IMO the amount you got back sounds pretty fair, if it was boneless cut, and all the more so if the butcher did a bunch of GOOD trimming of fat for you

I get the don't have a good place to butcher too, but honestly, it can be done in some real small places if you learn how to
I have done countless amounts of deer in the back of a pick up truck using nothing but a razer blade to skin and quarter them, from there a few plastic totes and and can work off a tailgate, place cuts into more toes, bring inside, clean and wrap, 99% of the mess stays outside, a simple rise with a hose and your pretty much done?

NOW< as for HOW do you fin a goo deer butcher
well, IMO< best places to find them is to go to local guns shops, and or archery shops, or even taxidermist's and ASK them who they recommend

FROM my experience, this is the name of the game in butcher's,as is the same with taxidermist
MOST all do GOOD work, till they get BUSY, take in more than they really should, and then , they rush and get sloppy
its why some deer mounts at some taxidermist can go from great to terrible all from the same guy!
IMO< too many look at the mighty dollar and want too many, and don't care so much about there reputation, which ends up COSTING them more $$ than they make overall!
so, take heed, anyone recommended , MIGHT be great, but what you get back might NOT be sop great, its NOT they cannot do good work, just when there slow, they do better work maybe and when busy they rush things and you get less than what you hoped for!
 
I think a 1:3 return on meat from a field dressed deer would be reasonable and you exceeded that. Remember that amount of fat, bone/tissue damage, etc. can impact butcher-able meat. Talking to my local guy who butchers 300 plus deer a year, many people expect more meat than is realistic.
 
That's probably not that far off if you use this yield calculator. You should have gotten back 36.99 lbs.
- Pennsylvania State University, Department of Animal Science and the Pennsylvania Game Commission, 1968
Our Thanks to DEER & DEERHUNTING Magazine for the use of this information.
  • Carcass weight = Field-dressed weight divided by 1.331
  • Ideal boneless venison weight = Carcass weight multiplied by .67
  • Realistic venison yield = Ideal boneless weight multiplied by .70
I just finished butchering a young doe last night, we don't weigh ours anymore we check them in on the computer, but I got almost 20 lbs off of it, so by these calculations she weighed 55-60 lbs field dressed. She sure seemed heavier than that when I picked her up.???
My thing with butchers is they figure how many pounds they owe you and just reach in the freezer and grab X amount of ground X amount of strap and so on. It may not even be your deer. That's why I've been doing my own for the last 30 some odd years. Plus I couldn't afford it in the early years.

For years, I've seen charts that say meat should equal 50% of dressed weight. I've always thought that those charts were probably right, but I guess I stand corrected.
Cap'n, Earlier, I saw that same chart as you posted and somehow screwed up my math and came up with ~50# which would have been what I mistakenly thought I should have gotten back.
Bad thread on my part. Sorry guys.
 
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I've been doing my deer and friends deer for 2 decades. A big doe yields about 30-33 pounds of boned meat, plus the backstraps. I make two fifteen pound batches of summer sausage every fall. A nice doe, remove the backstraps and loins, and the rest is about the 30# I need, usually just a tick over.

People don't realize what the guts, hide/head, and bones weigh.
 
I enjoy butchering deer and drinking a few beers as I am doing it. I wouldn’t mind butchering 2 to 4 deer a weekend for some extra money, but the laws are aginst me who doesn’t want to do it full time.
 
Just keep trying butchers till you find one you like. I’d ask your local neighbors for recommendations. I’ve had experienced a bad butcher and I am almost positive he gave me someone else’s deer. It tasted so bad I had to get rid of it.
 
First year I've gone this long without butchering for quite a few years. Had some early opportunities but passed then things dried up. Considered shooting a 4-pt last night. It was injured and wasn't putting any weight on its right front leg. I could see no arrow or injury. It was our first day of muzzleloader season, so I presume it was an auto or some other injury. Deer are amazing at how they can recover. I decided to let him walk. If I see him later in the season and he has not improved, I may take him, but I suspect he will heal and be fine.

I have to say that I might miss the butchering and giving out meat to friends more than actually shooting a deer!

Thanks,

Jack
 
Ok, I don't miss butchering any more.... It was a slow start then bang, bang, bang. I took one on the last day of muzzleloader (Friday the 16th) and then one on Monday night and another last night. Nothing big, just a mature doe and a couple yearlings. We spent most of the day today butchering. We got everything done up to the point of grinding. So, tomorrow morning will be grinding and jerky making. After dressing and quartering deer two nights in a row followed by a day and a half of butchering, I'm ready for a break! I find it more enjoyable when it is broken up as a deer or two in archery season, a deer or two in Muzzleloader, and a deer or two in gun season.

We had a very unusual year. Our deer numbers are rebounding, but the clearcutting, thinning, and controlled burns have provided a lot of quality native foods in cover during our archery and muzzleloader seasons. No need for deer to travel from bedding to our food plots. We often have an early drop of acorns in mid to late September followed by the majority in October and some into early November. This year, we had the early acorn drop in August and the majority fell in September before our archery season begins in early October. By the middle of October, the deer had cleaned up all the acorns. Now in the last half of November, the quality native foods in our controlled burn areas are beginning to dry up and deer are beginning to hit our plots right at the edge of legal shooting time.

It is legal to hunt deer with dogs in our county. In years gone by, once dog hunters started running dogs in the last half of November, deer would become almost completely nocturnal. The amount of dog hunting locally has declined. I presume it is a function of attrition like most kinds of hunting. At any rate, the changes in habitat, food sources, and hunting techniques and almost reversed our normal deer patterns.

Thanks,

Jack
 
I can't imagine what its like to be a butcher that handles over 1,000 a season!

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I can't imagine what its like to be a butcher that handles over 1,000 a season!

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Yes, at that point it really does become a job. It is certainly understandable why many folks don't like venison. Starting from shot placement to poor field dressing and dragging techniques contamination and decomposition begins. I can recall when I lived in PA as a kid taking a deer to the butcher shop. They had a compressed season with a million hunters. "Just throw it in the pile and make sure the tag is attached" is what you heard from the butcher. The pile sat outside for days of freezing and thawing before they even skinned the deer. It was usually cool by Thanksgiving time but occasionally we would get a warm day. Chances of getting meat from your own deer were small. If we treated cows like that folks would hate steak.

That is why I like to process my own. I live in the northern VA suburbs and I've converted a lot of anti-hunters who hated venison. My wife would cook a dinner for them and they would rave about how good the "steak" was. "Where did you get it?...Oh, it was a deer my husband shot..." Before long they were on a list of folks who wanted venison. Over time they went from "How could anyone hunt?" to "When are you going hunting again". Over the years I've refined my butchering.

When I hunted public land, I kept a deer cart in my truck and would use that rather than field dressing and dragging. No dirt or creek water got near the meat. I would field dress it back at the truck and skin and quarter it at the game check station I used. I would put the quarters in a Rubbermaid bin and take them home. I originally had an old side-by-side refrigerator that I removed the shelves from and installed a bar to hand the quarters. After letting it hang for several days (depending on the size) I would butcher the quarters in the kitchen. I started by just using a knife. We started with ziplok freezer bags but soon got a vacuseal.

Now that we have private land, things are much easier and I've acquired better equipment over time. We have enough ATV trails and firebreaks on the farm, a deer is never too far from ATV access to drag without field dressing. I have a Great Day lift on the front of my ATV. It is much easier on my aging back. When I get it back to the barn, I've got an electric hoist making field dressing much easier with gravity's help. I skin and quarter it immediately. I have a sawsall with a demolition blade I use only for deer. This makes quartering much easier than a hand saw. I have a reach-in cooler at the barn as well where I hang the quarters. So, typically within 2 hours of pulling a trigger, I have a deer with a constant temperature around 35 degrees.

The deer stays there until I'm ready to head home. Again I use a Rubbermaid tub to transport the quarters and depending on temps, I add ice to the tub if needed for the trip home. I've got another reach-in cooler for hanging deer at home. The meat is cooled down quickly and never exposed to bacteria unless I make a bad shot and when that happens, any exposure is washed with clean water and any tainted meat removed.

Letting a deer hang at that 35 degrees allows the enzymes to breakdown and tenderize the meat without significant bacterial growth. Larger and older deer are hunger longer. I usually butcher within a week. I have bandsaw type meat saw now. I use it only to make ham stakes from the rear quarter. I still fillet the loins. We either cube or grind the rest. I got a very heavy duty Cabelaas grinder that really works great. We started looking at the cost of the channel bags needed for the vacuseal and decided to invest in a chamber vacuum sealer that uses low cost bags and can seal bags with liquid in them. An Excalibur dehydrator for jerky and a heavy duty Cabelas jerky shooter round out the equipment.

Around here butchers will charge $70 and up to butcher a deer, but I don't butcher my own to save the money. I do it because I know and control exactly what happens to the meat from trigger pull to table.

We finished up this morning. We decided not to make jerky from this batch. We ended up with about 75 lbs of meat (not counting soup bones and such). I know guys up north will get that much from a single deer. That is about 10 lbs per hour of butchering time (from cooler to freezer).

Thanks,

jack
 
Learn to do your own, it's possible.

I live in a one bedroom apartment, and I don't own a truck. I've cut up 5 pigs and a deer in the past 12 months in my apartment kitchen. It's worth it from any perspective, whether it's quality, cleanliness, proper handling, trimming, saving money etc.

You've got to learn to know where you can go fast, and where you need to take your time. I had my entire deer processed (after de-boning) this year in about 90 minutes of prep and cleanup. From live to deboned took about another 45 minutes. I was there years ago, having hundreds of dollars into 25 pounds of meat that didn't even taste good.

My advice would be to go shadow some guys that do their own. It's not that hard, especially for venison, as most is ground and mixed and spiced away to something unrecognizable anyway. I can mine. It's fast, cheap, easy, and I think it brings out the best highest quality tenderness and taste in an otherwise hard to prepare piece of meat.
 
I broke down a couple in the bath tub and trimmed in the kitchen when I was in grad school. Those were the days!


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I can't imagine what its like to be a butcher that handles over 1,000 a season!

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I had a buddy that did almost that many for yrs, he used to hire the local high school football/wrestling team to help out and
and he also managed to put 3 kids thru collage on JUST the $$ he made butchering deer , so it sure did him well there too! was a full time butcher for a living, always wondering if he ever just got sick of doing so, and he said NO!
he would have a few tractor trailers for cold storage, and even crazier, the cuts were awesome, super clean very well wrapped, never know he did that many unless you knew details about them all!
LONG since retired now, but this was also in PA's HAY days of deer numbers and hunters numbers
they came in by the dozens at a time, had like an assembly line of workers to just log em, in and make room for more!
 
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