exactly. And many of the same folks who claimed the govt was way over estimating covid deaths, are now attributing all VAERS reported deaths - as fact that they were caused by the vaccine.
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exactly. And many of the same folks who claimed the govt was way over estimating covid deaths, are now attributing all VAERS reported deaths - as fact that they were caused by the vaccine.
Troubles Trees
5 year old buck +
So you have done it?
That isn't pointed nor sarcastic, just asking bud.
Regarding the numbers Swamp mentions, wouldn't it be obvious though if the CDC was allowing non-Covid deaths, like shot in the head or mangled in a vehicle accident Covid deaths, to be counted to maximize fear with higher death numbers.. minimize the deaths caused from the vaccine they are promoting/pushing to mandate? No red flags to you guys that Congress passed a law banning "off label use" of treatments and therapies to fight Covid-19 that were at least moderately effective to similar viruses like SARS that have worked in the past? Because the Novel Coronavirus is new and there is no drug that would have "Covid-19" on its label for use obviously.
I think by now most people know that NIH and Fauci have patents on Coronaviruses in a few different aspects, coupled with the emails that suggest that Fauci was coordinating gain of function research on Coronaviruses (even though he testified he never allowed it to happen) in Wuhan even though they appeared to pause that just before Covid-19 became prevalent as a Pandemic.
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Haus
5 year old buck +
And it is against the law to falsely report, correct?
Bill Loser
5 year old buck +
Obviously its only a lie if it adversely effects the vaccine #s. Only the lies about the covid deaths are allowed. Anything else is off limits! Come to my lab and I'll show you!lol
Bowsnbucks
5 year old buck +
This thread is ABSOLUTELY COMICAL.
I just took a huge runny dump and a bunch of new "facts" were splattered about the rim of my toilet. While expelling, I had a vision and God spoke to me - telling me that ALL doctors, Fauci, the NIH, and ALL medical researchers were put here from planet Magna Dipto to infect humans with "hoax virus #19, and eat babies ............. while profiting monetarily from their suffering. The vision also told me that smallpox, polio, measles, typhoid, cholera, and the flu are ALL made up. They were all lies made up to force people to take medicine and rob them of their Constitutional rights because "everybody knows this." People are saying it ...................
And by the way - gays & lesbians are reproducing by exchanging bracelets made from their hair so their gay genetics mix and make more gay babies to take over the world.
As I gaze into my toilet ....................... it's all so clear now.
Back to the Jewish space lasers.
I just took a huge runny dump and a bunch of new "facts" were splattered about the rim of my toilet. While expelling, I had a vision and God spoke to me - telling me that ALL doctors, Fauci, the NIH, and ALL medical researchers were put here from planet Magna Dipto to infect humans with "hoax virus #19, and eat babies ............. while profiting monetarily from their suffering. The vision also told me that smallpox, polio, measles, typhoid, cholera, and the flu are ALL made up. They were all lies made up to force people to take medicine and rob them of their Constitutional rights because "everybody knows this." People are saying it ...................
And by the way - gays & lesbians are reproducing by exchanging bracelets made from their hair so their gay genetics mix and make more gay babies to take over the world.
As I gaze into my toilet ....................... it's all so clear now.
Back to the Jewish space lasers.
Bill Loser
5 year old buck +
Huh, what ended up in the toilet is smarter than whatever typed the post.....
chummer
5 year old buck +
Unfortunately these are not his thoughts, these are from the desk of the sleeping mummy Biden. Your blind faith in the government is troubling. But hey, no more mean tweets as the country goes over the cliff. Maybe you will change your thought process when they want to mean test how much of your pension you really deserve. After all your white privilege is the only reason you have it.
Bill Loser
5 year old buck +
In reality, most doctors do seem to believe this is all bs. My dr. told me straight up this past thursday that there is no reason anyone of any age should get the "vaccine".
Tap
5 year old buck +
We need to make a list of all the lies that the feds have shoved at us over the last century or so. Then ask ourselves if this virus/vaccine is the one time they've finally been truthful with us?
Let me see...
Social security lock box,
B
Border crisis and numbers of illegals, cages,
A thousand lies about Trump,
UFOs,
WMDs, etc, etc, etc.....
But oh...we can belive them THIS TIME?? I don't think so.
Let me see...
Social security lock box,
B
Border crisis and numbers of illegals, cages,
A thousand lies about Trump,
UFOs,
WMDs, etc, etc, etc.....
But oh...we can belive them THIS TIME?? I don't think so.
Apple Junkie
5 year old buck +
Lol… so how do you really feel about the credibility of our medical professionals Bows. I am afraid this tread is way past changing any hearts and minds. I’ve come to accept people will believe what they choose to believe, me included.
Most of us have no problem protecting our crops – habitat and otherwise – applying herbicides and insecticides as needed. But, but not everyone seems as inclined to protect the “farmer” himself. I appreciate that some feel they are immune for some reason, others have, or will, self-vax by surviving a bout with Covid, and some will get the pokes – like me. Logic (and facts) seems to be in the eye of the beholder, so it’s no surprise we come to differing conclusions. Sleep well Bows, knowing your health is not affected by others decisions, then let the chips fall where they may. Just my two cents.
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chummer
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Maybe some (me) got Covid and vaccinated and still feel the government lies, cheats, steels, and the real people that caused this (China) will never be held responsible. Of coarse when the Biden’s and Faucci are in bed with China the thought off accountability seems as possible as he border being under control and there still only being 11 million illegals here. If the vaccine works no one should care who gets vaccinated.
BuckSutherland
5 year old buck +
Any of the science people here care to explain the long-term effects of the vaccine to me??? I wanna see 5 years of data before I make a decision. And you are correct Chummer. If the sheep think the vaccine is working they shouldn't give 2 f**ks if I take one. I'm not taking some experimental dogshat that has absolutely ZERO long-term data. Science says grease and sugar is bad too, but that doesnt stop our obese population from stuffing mcshit burgers and pops into their faces. Science says meth is some bad stuff. Doesnt stop meth use from exploding.
Mortenson
5 year old buck +
Generally speaking, this disease takes down very old people or people in very bad health. And just because someone may look healthy doesn't mean that they are. All the times we've heard that so and so "is in perfect shape" and the vid still took them to the wood shed or beyond. America had a perfect chance to wake up and from my tiny perspective nothing changed. I'm not 100% against taking the jab someday, but for now I'm still 99% against taking it.
Natty Bumppo
5 year old buck +
A few pages back somebody made a comment that "there is no middle on this one"...then there was a bunch of name calling. I think that kind of statement and mentality on a hot button issue only divides very good people.
It shouldn't matter to anybody what somebody else chooses to do in regards to the vaccine. If it works, which the data suggest it does (99% of all cases now are among the unvaccinated), then people who believe in science and got the shot should feel safe and unthreatened by the unvaccinated. Conversely, those who believe the virus is a hoax and distrust the science and government should not feel threatened by those who chose to get the vaccine. I don't see the need for all of the name calling and hyperbole?
I got experimental anti-chemical weapons shots when deployed during Desert Storm. We had to sign a release saying that we could not discuss or acknowledge that we even got the shots. We had to take a small white pill every 12 hours...also for anti-chemical weapon defense. 35 year later roughly 200,000 DStorm vets suffer a wide range of symptoms loosely referred to as Desert Storm Syndrome. I am no stranger to the dangers of taking experimental government vaccines and the potential long term threat they pose. Yet, I got the Covid-19 vaccine after much thought. I am healthy 52 year old. I have a strong immune system. I wasn't really concerned about my ability to fight Covid-19 if I caught it. But, I just didn't want to get it. There are many people who fight this thing just fine but then have "long haul" symptoms...to include heart and lung damage...and I simply did not want to risk that possibility. Like many of you, I am very active and athletic. Many of you know that I like to get out and chase whitetails in Larry Benoit style in the late season. I simply didn't want to risk my long term health...and getting the vaccine was the lesser of two evils based on my research, and my data review, and my understanding of the vaccine and Covid-19.
So, call me a sheep...or misinformed...or ignorant. I fully understand why some people chose not to get the vaccine. And I respect that. And I fully understand why some choose to get it. That is also respected. I don't understand or respect some of the language, hyperbole, and invective in a thread like this that just divides us. There IS a middle on this if people choose to set their own egos aside and consider both sides of the issue.
It shouldn't matter to anybody what somebody else chooses to do in regards to the vaccine. If it works, which the data suggest it does (99% of all cases now are among the unvaccinated), then people who believe in science and got the shot should feel safe and unthreatened by the unvaccinated. Conversely, those who believe the virus is a hoax and distrust the science and government should not feel threatened by those who chose to get the vaccine. I don't see the need for all of the name calling and hyperbole?
I got experimental anti-chemical weapons shots when deployed during Desert Storm. We had to sign a release saying that we could not discuss or acknowledge that we even got the shots. We had to take a small white pill every 12 hours...also for anti-chemical weapon defense. 35 year later roughly 200,000 DStorm vets suffer a wide range of symptoms loosely referred to as Desert Storm Syndrome. I am no stranger to the dangers of taking experimental government vaccines and the potential long term threat they pose. Yet, I got the Covid-19 vaccine after much thought. I am healthy 52 year old. I have a strong immune system. I wasn't really concerned about my ability to fight Covid-19 if I caught it. But, I just didn't want to get it. There are many people who fight this thing just fine but then have "long haul" symptoms...to include heart and lung damage...and I simply did not want to risk that possibility. Like many of you, I am very active and athletic. Many of you know that I like to get out and chase whitetails in Larry Benoit style in the late season. I simply didn't want to risk my long term health...and getting the vaccine was the lesser of two evils based on my research, and my data review, and my understanding of the vaccine and Covid-19.
So, call me a sheep...or misinformed...or ignorant. I fully understand why some people chose not to get the vaccine. And I respect that. And I fully understand why some choose to get it. That is also respected. I don't understand or respect some of the language, hyperbole, and invective in a thread like this that just divides us. There IS a middle on this if people choose to set their own egos aside and consider both sides of the issue.
Bill Loser
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Natty, that was me that made the no middle ground comment. To be clear that wasn't about the so called vaccines. It was about the vid in general. And i stand by that statement. There is no middle ground when it comes to this grossly over blown and politicized sickness. There is only right and wrong. The ones pedaling fear and massive government control ARE wrong period. There is and can be no middle ground here.
As far as the vacs? I could care less. I believe what i believe on those. But you do you and I'll do me and we all go on happily. I dont get the flu shots either so I've kinda set a precedent for myself.
4wanderingeyes
5 year old buck +
You see it every day how the vaccinated ridicule the unvaccinated, everywhere you look. It is really hard to not get defensive when the name calling, insults, and threats happen non stop.
I have a hard time understanding the huge drive to get everyone a shot, that has no long term testing, and is new technology.
I understand COVID is scary, but survival rates amounst all age groups combined is very high, and just not worth the drive to get everyone an experimental shot. One that isn’t approved by the FDA.
They won’t even accept the fact the natural immunity from having COVID as acceptable.
I for one won’t be lining up until I see a benefit, and not a risk for getting the shot. Once they can tell me honestly the risks, and side effects, and successful ness of the shot, without hiding everything negative. Try discussing it honestly on Facebook. Your post will either be deleted, flagged, hidden with warnings, or if you post in a page, you will get kicked off for questioning the vaccine. Sounds to me like a cover up. To many question marks, and not enough benefit for me, at least yet.
I have brought this up before, I may at some time get one, but for my wife, and in-laws. My in-laws won’t come visit us, and if we see them they act like we have the plague, and stay 10 feet away. My wife also likes to cruise, and we have a couple booked, and I am hoping the relax some of their regulations before our cruise dates, because right now I would rather not go and forfeit my money I put down on the cruise then deal with the regulations they have in place now.
I have a hard time understanding the huge drive to get everyone a shot, that has no long term testing, and is new technology.
I understand COVID is scary, but survival rates amounst all age groups combined is very high, and just not worth the drive to get everyone an experimental shot. One that isn’t approved by the FDA.
They won’t even accept the fact the natural immunity from having COVID as acceptable.
I for one won’t be lining up until I see a benefit, and not a risk for getting the shot. Once they can tell me honestly the risks, and side effects, and successful ness of the shot, without hiding everything negative. Try discussing it honestly on Facebook. Your post will either be deleted, flagged, hidden with warnings, or if you post in a page, you will get kicked off for questioning the vaccine. Sounds to me like a cover up. To many question marks, and not enough benefit for me, at least yet.
I have brought this up before, I may at some time get one, but for my wife, and in-laws. My in-laws won’t come visit us, and if we see them they act like we have the plague, and stay 10 feet away. My wife also likes to cruise, and we have a couple booked, and I am hoping the relax some of their regulations before our cruise dates, because right now I would rather not go and forfeit my money I put down on the cruise then deal with the regulations they have in place now.
jsasker007
5 year old buck +
Everyone acting like we have NO immune system and need to get it from the government. I'm way better off without the government. FTG!
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