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Just curious as to what everyone’s school districts are planning to do for the start of the school year. Yesterday ours officially released their plan for a return to full time in person school with an on line opt out option. The plan is pretty detailed coming in at 13 pages. A couple of key points are face masks are highly recommended but not mandated at this point and Students can move to online at any point but can only move from online to in person at the start of new quarters.
 
Ours is pretty much the same. We're a rural, conservative community in general. So everyone is wanting to get the kids back into school. There's an opt out plan for online if you don't want to go in person, but i haven't heard details about face masks just yet. But i'm pretty impressed with our school board and superintendent. Helps his son is in my son's class too. :D
 
Our schools in Mass. have to have 3 different plans submitted by early August. One for in person with protection, one for a hybrid in-person/online program. And one for a 100% online program. Which one we go with will depend on the #'s of Covid cases in the next few weeks.
 
Minnesota is a JOKE of a liberal state and will do whatever it takes to make it look like it was Trumps fault to skew the election this fall. We are suppose to hear about school early next week I believe. From what I have heard it sounds like elementary kids sill be back to school but posibly not highschool. What a Joke!!!!
 
Agree about Minnesota. Nothing but the blind leading the blind here. Kids will be the ones suffering from all this shit. Trump said Minnesota won't let him have any rally in Minnesota before the election. It's the metro areas that are suffocating because they have their heads so far up their asses. Where I live the people ALL support Trump. What concept huh? Support the sitting president. Taxing Timmy has to go!
 
The plan here was 20+ pages and it's simply destined to fail. Lots of rules and guidelines to be followed that will NEVER be followed...hell most parents won't even read it! This sounds bad...but people simply are not going to do these things and they are going to send sick kids to school....just like they did before! School is already delaying sports practices and the like with the numbers increasing here again. The "plan" is to go back in person...but I don't figure that will last long....if it even gets off the ground. What really sucks is that in rural areas like mine even e-learning is a struggle because rural internet is garbage. My daughter's college has already announced they are not opening campus this fall (it's in Atlanta area).

Anybody else notice the political hand washing going on over the covid thing???? President is putting the burden on Governors, Governors are putting the burden on city and county officials..... I'm not saying it's right or wrong.... I'm just saying it is odd how this has turned into a political hot-potato. Yet many other issues people are seeking federal and nation wide regulations and legislation.....
 
MN is a joke! A libtard idiot at the wheel, and he has no clue on his own and looks to California, Illinois, and New York for his next “Turn of the dial” of how to control the state. Sounds like tomorrow masks will be mandated state wide, I have my doubt the teacher unions will allow any teachers to go back until after the elections.
 
I just hope its true that Trump is going to withhold federal funding to schools if they don't open...
 
I say if the teachers dont go to work, dont pay them! I have to work every day, and dont have the option, like many other people, if I dont want to go to work, no big deal, the boss will just fire me and replace me with someone that will!
 
I say if the teachers dont go to work, dont pay them! I have to work every day, and dont have the option, like many other people, if I dont want to go to work, no big deal, the boss will just fire me and replace me with someone that will!

My wife is a teacher. I can assure you it was twice as much work to teach students online as it was to do it in the classroom. They will get paid, they are part of a union which is the whole point of a union. The bigger issue at hand is that there will be many teachers not returning to work if at home learning is going to be mandated.
 
My wife is a teacher. I can assure you it was twice as much work to teach students online as it was to do it in the classroom. They will get paid, they are part of a union which is the whole point of a union. The bigger issue at hand is that there will be many teachers not returning to work if at home learning is going to be mandated.

My wife is also a teacher, or was until all the kids started showing up. She was both a traditional brick and mortar teacher and a virtual academy teacher. I can tell you the virtual education, for the majority of things, doesn't hold a candle to the in school education. At least in her case the virtual school attracted kids who were generally truant and not committed enough to go to a standard school, and on the flip side, it attracted the exact same quality of educators. She had her name forged onto special education documents, the teachers were all in it because they didn't want to commit to a full day in school, the quality of learning was pretty crappy...

Maybe she was just in a bad school district, but that's not to mention the debauchery that happened when the "school" got together for in person inservices.

We can have the best of intentions, but with more and more 2 income families, having kids at home and hoping they or their undisciplined parents will police them and make them attend online classes, I just don't see it happening or being effective
 
My State of NY isn't looking good and the online or "distance learning" at the end of the school year was both good and bad. My school and the teachers did an awesome job with the transition from classroom to online with such short notice. I have no complaints with my daughters school and how well they did, but the actual education was terrible. The kids were graded on a 0-4 grading system, a 0 meant they didn't do anything and didn't hand anything in. A 4 meant they did what they were asked and handed it in. None of the grading accounted for grammer errors or math checked, if they did the math problem completely wrong they get a 4 :/ My daughter got her best grades to date! lol BUT she didn't learn much of the actual curriculum. Again not the teachers fault or the school for that matter, this grading system was handed down from (I think the State to the County but not sure there) the County for all to use. I am not sure how other areas of NY adjusted to be fair. The biggest problem for me was keeping my daughter on schedule to login when classes begin and not just playing Playstation all day while I am at work.
This year, Cuomo keeps the knife ready to cut everyone back to 100% online if cases spike. Our school put out a survey to all parents to feel out what we wanted which I found comforting. Regardless of what the school wants, it has to follow State Guidelines and that is where things get messy. In our county we have had 56 positive cases, 12 hospitalizations and 0 deaths from Covid but over 11,000 tests submitted in total. The math supports fully opening every school in our county with 100% in person learning. Especially when combined with the data from other countries that have opened schools and it hasn't been a problem. Anyway, our school had to submit 3 reopening plans to the state, this is where it gets messy.

1) One for 100% in person with mandated masks when they leave their desk, and desks 6 feet apart, but the desks are currently three feet apart so they included renting tents and tables for outdoor classes (not sure how that works out when winter settles in?). The kids on buses have to be one child per seat which more than doubles the amount of buses needed to get every child to school in the morning and again in the afternoon... that we don't have. The school is unwittingly leaning more towards the next option because of classroom space and busing problems.

2) One for a hybrid in-person/online program. This gives each kid a half day of in school and half day online but alleviates the spacing requirements from the State but doubles the busing (not the actual buses) because they will have to run the routes twice as many times per day to bring half the kids (group 1) in the morning while they other half (group 2) do classes online, then take them (group 1) home while somehow picking up the other half (group 2) that are going in to school for their half day of in class learning.

3) And one for a 100% online program.

It is all doomed to fail and be very expensive on us taxpayers. If they just go with the cheapest option of 100% online, the kids get a crappy education and us working parents have extra work to make sure our kids are doing what they are supposed to do. If they go with option 1 or 2 either way its going to jump the costs significantly but the education given is much better. Bear in mind that NY is only 2nd to California as the most taxed State in the Country already. Nothing good comes out of this for us common folk, forseeing this is exactly what drove me to research Covid numbers for over a month now.
 
My wife had kids that were terrible students that once they were sent home for online learning started getting 100% on all of their tests. I wonder what was going on there? I don't actually wonder....
 
My wife had kids that were terrible students that once they were sent home for online learning started getting 100% on all of their tests. I wonder what was going on there? I don't actually wonder....

Maybe your wife was wrong...

Maybe you should tell her she is wrong...

lol, just kidding, don't do that, it wouldn't go well for any of us.

Maybe our experience was just anecdotal, but I wasn't impressed with the distance learning machine. Granted that was 5-7 years back. And I'm sure things are more refined now.

The moral of hte story is don't try to tell your wife she was wrong. I don't want you to die.

Are you saying the kids had parents doing their work?
 
My wife is a teacher. I can assure you it was twice as much work to teach students online as it was to do it in the classroom. They will get paid, they are part of a union which is the whole point of a union. The bigger issue at hand is that there will be many teachers not returning to work if at home learning is going to be mandated.


My wife is also a teacher, high school English teacher. I hate unions, especially far left unions such as the teachers union. My wife wants to go back to school, and is tempted to retire this year if they dont.
 
My wife is also a teacher, high school English teacher. I hate unions, especially far left unions such as the teachers union. My wife wants to go back to school, and is tempted to retire this year if they dont.
my wife wasn't in the union as a teacher. We cashed her out and so now, she has no motive to go back.
 
Agree about Minnesota. Nothing but the blind leading the blind here. Kids will be the ones suffering from all this shit. Trump said Minnesota won't let him have any rally in Minnesota before the election. It's the metro areas that are suffocating because they have their heads so far up their asses. Where I live the people ALL support Trump. What concept huh? Support the sitting president. Taxing Timmy has to go!
Well, he could do one in each outside corner of MN. Fargo, Superior, LaCrosse, and Sioux Falls. I might just space them all 3 weeks apart and do a circle around the pen between now and November.
 
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