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Chainsaw
5 year old buck +
I planted Kerr last spring after having seen them at Chummers. Kerr grew very quickly and seem to thrive on Tugg Hill which is a very tough environment. Chummer's is disease free and Kerr is apparently known for that. It comes from a cross between a Haralson and a Dolgo. Ryan from Blue Hill Nursery told me he bought his original Kerr stock from a nursery in Alaska because he wanted to be sure he was getting proven cold hardy Kerr tree stock good down to zone 3.
sandbur
5 year old buck +
Chainsaw
5 year old buck +
I have bought from Cummins a couple of times and would expect that their Kerr apple tree would be the real deal as well. They have shown themselves to be a top class company in every respect and even with just buying from them a couple of times that obvious.
Bowsnbucks
5 year old buck +
I bought our Kerr from SLN originally, but also 2 from Cummins. I trust Cummins - never a problem. SLN trees are grown in a Zone 3 location.
rocksnstumps
5 year old buck +
Got a couple Kerr from SLN last yr and although trees were a bit on small side they grew well and all the SLN trees made it thru the winter
Will put a plug in that I believe that Turkey Creek also sells Kerr.
Will put a plug in that I believe that Turkey Creek also sells Kerr.
Chainsaw
5 year old buck +
Big Dog here has also set fruit on trees received from Blue Hill planted last month. There were many blooms from other trees in the area. Still though,
apples on the first year is a huge deal. Our first apple plantings took over ten years to first fruit. Big Dog is a winner here so far.
sandbur
5 year old buck +
Free rootstock here! This is my oldest purchased tree, chestnut crab. With the drought, I have not been mowing as much. The rootstock has suckers as far as 7 paces from the tree.
I did dig one rootsucker in the foreground and potted it. The rootstock throws a 1/2 inch crab, which I wonder if it is a dolgo seedling.
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sandbur
5 year old buck +
More free rootstock from a wild plum rootstock. These suckers are up to 9 paces from the plum tree.
I put a tree tube contraption over one sucker after clipping it’s connection to the mother tree with a shovel. It is near the garden so I can easily keep it watered.
I have a spot sprayed near the swamp where I can move it this fall or next spring.
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Bowsnbucks
5 year old buck +
Update ..............
As of today - in the middle of a very hot, very humid summer here - the seedlings from Sandbur's seed varieties have NO visible disease problems. We have junipers here in the neighbors' properties - but no CAR on the young potted trees. One tree has some powdery mildew on it's leaves, but it's not affecting growth of the tree. Despite frequent showers & thunderstorms over the past month - NO sign of fire blight ( thank GOD! )
All trees from the same seed tree seem to have variations in leaf patterns / leaf sizes / shapes. One tree in particular has SUPER crotch angles which are close to 90 degrees - but not quite - from the trunk. The rest are mainly straight whips, with one or two having a branch starting from the trunk. These will be planted at camp next spring 2022 - Good Lord willing.
As of today - in the middle of a very hot, very humid summer here - the seedlings from Sandbur's seed varieties have NO visible disease problems. We have junipers here in the neighbors' properties - but no CAR on the young potted trees. One tree has some powdery mildew on it's leaves, but it's not affecting growth of the tree. Despite frequent showers & thunderstorms over the past month - NO sign of fire blight ( thank GOD! )
All trees from the same seed tree seem to have variations in leaf patterns / leaf sizes / shapes. One tree in particular has SUPER crotch angles which are close to 90 degrees - but not quite - from the trunk. The rest are mainly straight whips, with one or two having a branch starting from the trunk. These will be planted at camp next spring 2022 - Good Lord willing.
sandbur
5 year old buck +
I have see no CAR here this year which I attribute to the worst drought in over 33 years. One farmer says his agronomist reports his farm is 1.5 inches below rainfall compared to this point in 1988. Previous drought was 1976.
We have had a good run without drought, until now.
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Bowsnbucks
5 year old buck +
I hope your drought ends with "normal" rain & not crazy floods.
sandbur
5 year old buck +
Geneva crab from GRIN looks promising. This is no spray during a drought year. It has clusters of fruit like the Buckman Crab.
It is on a wild crab franken tree and has also shown fast growth on dolgo rootstock.
References say high acid and some bitters. Probable sister to Almata.
I will monitor it for ripening, taste, and drop time.
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Charles Clear
5 year old buck +
Geneva crab from GRIN looks promising. This is no spray during a drought year. It has clusters of fruit like the Buckman Crab.
It is on a wild crab franken tree and has also shown fast growth on dolgo rootstock.
References say high acid and some bitters. Probable sister to Almata.
I will monitor it for ripening, taste, and drop time.
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I was looking at Geneva on Cummins site. Wow, guess I will get one now, looks fantastic
sandbur
5 year old buck +
I assume they are the same. Does Cummins have them on a hunter’s rootstock?
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sandbur
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H20fwler
5 year old buck +
Unfortunately not at least not right now. I have one on my spring order that is on G202 because that is biggest I could get. I should be able to graft off of it to M111 pretty quick though. (can never have to many red flesh crabs!)
Cummins isn't the best nursery for getting the bigger rootstocks at times but they have a lot of great varieties and healthy trees.
