I saw a cousin this past weekend who lives up on the Iron Range, <10 miles south of Mt Iron and Virginia and does a lot of hunting. I hadn't seen him for a couple years and he said they started a bit of am informal coop a couple years ago. His wife is from the Sebeka area so he had heard about Hillview Management a few years ago and said "why can't we do that?". He said he saw 19 deer (including repeats) during rifle season in permit area 178, a bucks only area. He ended up shooting a nice 10 pt this past year.