An evolving approach to wildilfe management

yoderjac

5 year old buck +
This question was posed on a recent Clethodim thread:

Interesting topic, Yoder I'm wondering what approach you've been taking to contend with grass encroachment in your plots. If I remember correctly, you have your beans and corn mix so you might utilize Gly.
Kinda wondering what has worked and what hasn't. This year I've really been battling weeds. We've gotten over our yearly precipitation average and that was just into August and we get wet in oct. nov. and dec

It was posed in response to my post that included this relevant paragraph:

It is kind of funny that I'm on this side of the argument since my use of herbicides in general has really diminished, my approach has focused much more on soil health and reduction in inputs(CNC related techniques), and an increased tolerance for weeds. I find very few situations where I'm using grass selective herbicides right now. I would contend Clethodim should be avoided, not because of any labeling issues, but because there are better and more sustainable approaches to food plotting.

This is a much broader topic so I thought I'd start a new thread.
 
Lucky, you are right. I'm not at all opposed to the responsible use of herbicides as one tool to control weeds but my general approach has been evolving over time. Let's start with a definition for the word "weed". A simply one is "a plant out of place". Something growing where you don't want it to grow. So, weeds are very subjective and really depend on your objective.

Farmers traditionally use tillage or herbicides or some combination to control weeds to maximize the yield of a monoculture they are growing. If the yield increase per acre X the price is more than the cost of weed control, the farmer has met his objective (at least in the short run). We sometimes think of ourselves as mini-farmers. There is a lot we can learn from them, but our objectives can be different.

So, my primary objective is to manage to improve the health and age class of the deer herd balanced with managing for turkey and timber income. Another objective is introducing new hunters to the sport. So, in my case there is some overall balancing to do, but for purposes of this discussion, I'll focus on feeding deer.

Deer are browsers, not grazers. Free ranging deer have an amazingly diverse diet and any food plots we plant will only be a fairly small fraction of the deer's overall diet. What I try to do is look for holes; time periods when the vast array of native foods diminish. In the north, this is usually winter and in the south summer. I'm in zone 7a, so our major stress period is summer but we also have some stress in during the winter.

When I first started, I wanted to maximize yield like a farmer. The reality is that given I plant sufficient acreage, unless fields are wiped out completely, the yield is sufficient. Yield still plays a role with me, but not in the way it used to.

Starting with my summer stress period, I tried planting warm season annuals. All the normal stuff. Without the use of herbicides, between heavy browse pressure and heavy summer weed competition, for most plants, a seed turned into a single bite of food for a deer. Basically foods that were attractive did not produce sufficient yield even with 7 acres of warm season annuals. So, here is an example where herbicides save the day for me. I started with Eagle RR forage beans with a light mix of corn (7:1). At smaller acreage, the deer would keep the beans naked all summer but they couldn't seem to kill the Eagle beans. The deer would eat a leaf and the plant would push a new one. By the time I got to 7 acres of it, the beans would canopy, get 6' tall and produce many (but small) pods. A couple years ago, we got our population under control and I've been able to plant ag beans. Last year they canopied. This year our numbers have bounced back a bit. The ag beans did not grow fast enough to canopy so they are full of summer grasses and weeds, but there are plenty of beans in the fields. Many browsed heavily but many not touched. Regardless of the field covered with weeds there is plenty of soybean forage in it. Keep in mind if someone were planting beans for pod production up north, one would need to evaluate whether the weeds stopped sufficient yield of pods for the winter. Here, deer mostly ignore my pods unless there is a complete mast crop failure so pods don't matter much to me for deer.

When we turn to fall, I have small harvest plots and some larger plots. These all have a clover base. The 7 acres of beans have a cover crop surface broadcast into them when they yellow which provides fall/winter food. So, lets talk about clover. I used to want beautiful monocultures of clover. It was expensive in both time and money but they looked great. It was all fluff. I've found that many of the broadleaf weeds in my clover are great deer food. Therefore , those are not weeds to me. Since my beans cover our major stress period of the summer, I count largely on the clover for spring and fall. I do my best to start with a clean field when planting clover. I like to use buckwheat to get good control of weeds during the summer and then surface broadcast Durana clover with a nurse crop of Winter Rye. I use the throw and grow approach Crimson N Camo discusses. This is good for the soil (I'll talk about that later) but it does not bring up more weed seed into the germination layer. Durana is slow to establish so timely spring mowing is important. Each time the WR reaches about a foot, I'll mow it back to 6". Once established, I treat my clover very differently. I mow it once in the spring to release it from the weeds. I then let the summer weeds take over. Sometimes my clover fields have 6' tall weeds during the summer. They shade the clover from summer heat. Right before our season, I'll mow them back to 6". There is lots of great clover growing under the weeds. The weather now favors the clover and it takes over the field again.

I'm now beginning to look at clover fields as wildlife openings with native weeds forbs and clover. Eventually I'll rotate the field thorugh buckwheat and back to clover.

Thanks,

Jack
 
The next topic is soil health. There are lots of great guys who know soils much better than I. Doug (Dgallow) from the other forum, Banc (who I think is on Cutman's forum), and Crimson N Camo over here are just a few. Tillage, especially deep tillage has a profoud long-term effect on soils. Google "Ray the Soil Guy" and watch some of his videos. Start with the infiltration video. Most food plotters don't have a no-till drill, but Crimson N Camo has taken these same underlying principles and demonstrated how they can be applied with small equpment by food plotters.
A wise choice of crops that are soil builders helps build Organic Matter (OM). Tillage introduces oxygen into the soil increasing microbial consumption of OM. Nature loves diversity. Farmers try to work around some of the negative effects of monoculture by rotation. I love plants like Buckwheat, Winter Rye, Daikon Radish, Purple Top Turnips, Clover, etc. They make great deer food and improve the soils.
Balancing Carbon and Nitrogen is a great way to increase OM. That requres a mix of crop types.
In the long run, the inputs like fertilizer drop and the soil is rebuilt. You end up with a much more sustainable system.

Thanks,

Jack
 
I ended the last post with the word sustainable system. I've begun to ask myself what happens to the local herd if I stop food plotting. Am I working so hard to produce temporary food that the rug gets pulled out from under my herd if I stop? When we first purchased the farm, it was an emergency room situation. We ramped up a large food plot program quickly. It is expensive and I'm not getting any younger.

That has caused me to start looking at permaculture. Trees that produce mast (hard and soft) that are available to deer over a wide timeframe is the direction I'm headed. So, all those clover fields will eventually have mast producing trees in them.
Since I'll be using mast trees to feed deer, I need volume. After looking at the alternatives, I decided to grow my own from seed using root pruning containers. There is a significant setup cost but the cost per tree goes down quickly.
My largest bang for the buck in this arena is actually improving what nature gives me. I have lots of persimmon trees growing natively in my area but most are male. I'm now grafting female scions from a broad range of sources with the objective of having persimmons fall from summer through winter. I've planted hundreds of Dunstan chestnuts grown from seed and I'm now branching out to many more kinds of trees.
My plan is to slowly reduce food plots as these trees come on line with production. I'm using primarily low maintenance trees that can produce mast with no care after they are established.

Thanks,

Jack
 
For balance, keep in mind that this manipulation of quality deer food is only one aspect of our program. We are doing timber management, controlled burn large scale habitat management operations as well.

Thanks,

Jack
 
Jack,
I agree with your approach and have recently started adding the chestnuts and persimmon grafting but I think we have to keep in mind is how long those 2 tree crops last into the second biggest stress period, late winter. Acorns will last longer than the chestnut seeds and persimmon fruit "shelf life wise" . Late dropping red oaks I would think are probably a good addition. I have planted sawtooths but they drop awfully early and fruit hit and miss in frost pockets. I have recently been adding Nutall oaks for their late drop period. Did you get any Macon Nutall graft wood from Dr C Dahlke? I was impressed with the March 15 photo he sent me of the tree with half of its acorns still in the tree. If you are trying to help turkeys too, I think it may be especially useful. Lane in 7b.
 
We already have a variety of red and white oak species already. That, and the time to first fruit, is the only reason they are lower on my list. I did not get any of the Macon Nutall from him but I did get some persimmon wood. It has been quite a while since I've spoken with him. He is probably one of the best authorities I've found for grafting for wildlife purposes. I generally don't use his name on-line so that he doesn't get inundated, but I've passed on left over scions I received from him to other persimmon grafters.

I take a very different approach for turkey management. With the diverse habitat we create for deer, food is never a limiting factor for adult turkey in my area. Adult turkey will eat about anything that doesn't eat them. For turkey, I focus on poults. It starts with nesting habitat close to brooding habitat. A very high percentage of a young poults diet consists of insects. Clover is one if the first things to green up in the spring, so the clover fields I plant for deer are some of the first fields to attract insects. Poults can't navigate well through fescue and plants that fall over and block bare ground. Poults are also susceptible to avian predation. So, I buffer my beans and corn fields on the end with clover. This gives me room to lift the drill and turn the tractor around for planting beans. If the beans canopy, you get bare ground under a leaf canopy that can hide poults from avian predators when they need escape from the clover. Even better, on the other side of each of the small strips of clover I maintain strips of bicolor lespedeza.

SIDE NOTE: Every time I mention bicolor I need to say it is a non-native and can be invasive under some soil conditions. Especially if planted in areas that are regularly exposed to fire. I have had no issues with spread in my soils and I've even converted some strips back to crops with no difficulty. However, be sure you really know how it will perform under your conditions before using any non-native that can become invasive.

Back to poults...The bicolor grows 8'-10' tall and lots of bare ground under it. It provides perfect cover for birds from avian predators and produces millions of tiny seeds that are small enough that even young poults can eat them.

The buckwheat we plant for deer and soil improvement also tends to hold flocks during the summer. On good mast crop years birds will be harder to find with plentiful acorns but other than that draw, all the stuff we plant for deer serves turkey as well.

Thanks,

Jack
 
I have to agree with your planting buckwheat for multiple benefits. At my camp we plant it every year in one place or another. BW feeds deer, turkeys, grouse, and provides some cover for fawns & turkey poults. It also adds to the OM in the soil. The many flowers BW has provide great attraction for bees and other pollinators, too. For the price, it's hard to beat.
 
Good discussion Jack. I had a guy on another forum the other day state that his clover field was full of dog fennel. He says, surprisingly my clover underneath is doing great!....but there’s a lot of dog fennel. My thoughts were……What’s the problem?.....It’s August in the deep south, most people’s clover is dormant right now. I offered the suggestion that maybe the dog fennel was offering the clover midday shade and that the two plants were actually beneficial to one another. I’ve noticed big flushes of dog fennel is really common following a really good stand of clover. Makes me wonder if the dog fennel likes the free N in the soil produced from the mono of clover and is scavenging it and producing high C:N organic matter with it……but I’m getting off into left field a little.


The part of it the story that is gonna be the most difficult for folks to overcome is our idea of what a food plot is supposed to look like and what is bad and what it good. The guy in the story was telling me that his clover was thriving and doing great in the heat of the summer, yet his brain had trained him to think that the dog fennel was bad and he needed to take immediate action…..so he removed the dog fennel canopy in August with it in the upper 90’s. Why?.....So it would it look pretty. The field didn’t need touching until early fall and even then you probably could have just let nature terminate the dog fennel and release the clover. Nature tends to know what it’s doing even if we don’t trust her sometimes.
 
Here’s something I hear about “weeds” all the time…..”That weed is useless!”…….I have to ask the question….”Then what is it doing here if it has no use or purpose?”….Maybe it’s just that we don’t understand its purpose. We tend to not be able to see the whole picture. I don’t think we will ever be able to in its entirety. To fully understand nature would be a task as difficult as understanding God himself.


Deep thoughts by CnC……..:D
 
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Jack,
Your approach makes sense. Do you plant VA-70 bicolor? CD isn't big on bicolor. I haven't seen any spread in my area. I have a question about the clover and nitrogen fixation. Does the clover release much of the nitrogen when it is alive or is it mainly after it dies? I know from the pecan literature that young trees grow better with bare ground or mulch around them than they do with even clover for a ground cover. Thanks. Lane
 
Similar to CnC story, I made the mistake of terminating poke salad from a clover plot. It was tall but not thick. But it didn't look pretty and we sprayed it. Then I realized that deer do like it. Crap, I just terminated edible food. I think I have gotten a tad bit smarter since that dumb decision 4 years ago. Now, I don't mind a little bit of weeds in the plots. We do try to treat some that are not beneficial and can be nuisance. We try to mow the clovers once in the spring, but only if its cool weather and not drought conditions. One weed we do have trouble with is common rush, but as long as its not taking over the field, I have learned to live with it. Its too much effort to control every single weed in a food plot.
 
Jack,
Your approach makes sense. Do you plant VA-70 bicolor? CD isn't big on bicolor. I haven't seen any spread in my area. I have a question about the clover and nitrogen fixation. Does the clover release much of the nitrogen when it is alive or is it mainly after it dies? I know from the pecan literature that young trees grow better with bare ground or mulch around them than they do with even clover for a ground cover. Thanks. Lane

Yes, I planted VA-70 bicolor. As I try to note when I mention it that it requires a lot of thought. It has some very good benefits, but there is a risk of invasiveness in some conditions and why many are not big on it. I have a unique situation. I have long pipeline row bisecting my property that provides a great open area for planting. Some of our older guys are limited in their mobility and this pipeline provides easy access for them, so I want it to be huntable as well as a destination plot. I needed a visual barrier to break it up into smaller sections that deer will be comfortable using during hunting hours. Deer typically wait until later to go into a field where they can be seen from a larger distance when hunting pressure goes up.

The pipeline company has no issues with agriculture but objects to anything woody growing on the pipeline. They are concerned about the root systems impinging on the pipes. I also don't have time to plant an annual every year for a visual block during deer season with all the other planting I do. We also had a couple coveys of quail using our property. I was also familiar with how bicolor performs in our area because of some conservation volunteer work I did for years on a nearby military base. Not all non-native species are equal in invasiveness. The base planted Autumn Olive and Bicolor for wildlife back in the 60s. The Autumn Olive is invading and threatening a lot of native plants. They are spending millions to try to control the Autumn Olive now. The bicolor is pretty much limited to the stands they originally planted with only slight expansion in the immediate vicinity. I discussed bicolor with the agronomist on the base and then discussed it with several game department biologists. They concurred it was a reasonable choice for my situation and even convinced the pipeline company that the root system of bicolor, even though woody, was not deep enough to interfere with their pipes.

To be clear, I'm not advocating Bicolor for everyone. My intent was to talk about planting something that provides bare ground underneath with protection from avian predators for poults next to a bugging area.

As for clover and nitrogen fixing, you are correct. The nitrogen is made available to other plants when the clover dies. However, clover is always dying and regenerating. Some of the clover is regenerated from the existing root system and some from reseeding. I would think that the N levels of the soil rise over time as a clover field ages. When you finally terminate the field and rotate it, you are killing all the existing clover which releases the maximum amount of N.

As for seedlings, you are right as well. I've seen some studies that show removing competition can have a significant impact on the growth rate of seedlings. As I recall 5' was about the sweet spot for that. It is not all about N. It is also about moisture and other nutrients that become more available to the tree when competition is removed.

Thanks,

Jack
 
Good discussion Jack. I had a guy on another forum the other day state that his clover field was full of dog fennel. He says, surprisingly my clover underneath is doing great!....but there’s a lot of dog fennel. My thoughts were……What’s the problem?.....It’s August in the deep south, most people’s clover is dormant right now. I offered the suggestion that maybe the dog fennel was offering the clover midday shade and that the two plants were actually beneficial to one another. I’ve noticed big flushes of dog fennel is really common following a really good stand of clover. Makes me wonder if the dog fennel likes the free N in the soil produced from the mono of clover and is scavenging it and producing high C:N organic matter with it……but I’m getting off into left field a little.


The part of it the story that is gonna be the most difficult for folks to overcome is our idea of what a food plot is supposed to look like and what is bad and what it good. The guy in the story was telling me that his clover was thriving and doing great in the heat of the summer, yet his brain had trained him to think that the dog fennel was bad and he needed to take immediate action…..so he removed the dog fennel canopy in August with it in the upper 90’s. Why?.....So it would it look pretty. The field didn’t need touching until early fall and even then you probably could have just let nature terminate the dog fennel and release the clover. Nature tends to know what it’s doing even if we don’t trust her sometimes.
Here’s something I hear about “weeds” all the time…..”That weed is useless!”…….I have to ask the question….”Then what is it doing here if it has no use or purpose?”….Maybe it’s just that we don’t understand its purpose. We tend to not be able to see the whole picture. I don’t think we will ever be able to in its entirety. To fully understand nature would be a task a difficult as understanding God himself.


Deep thoughts by CnC……..:D


Great addition to the thread. It is also important that we fine-tune the general principles to our specific area. When I planted ladino clover and had lush fields I kept mowed and "weed" free, they would go dormant in the heat of summer. Since I've switched to Durana, if I keep them lush and weed free, they will stay green all summer in wet years and only go dormant for a short period in dry years. If I back off the weed control, they don't go dormant all.

Your are also right to point out that deer food is not the only purpose of "weeds". I'm still tweaking methods, but right now I mow established clover once in the spring to advantage it over weeds since spring is one of the important times when clover is needed, and then once again in the fall after the weather breaks just before our season. There are a couple reasons for this. One is to release the clover from the shade of the dog fennel, but the seconds is to accommodate our hunters. Some don't and never will understand these concepts and are more supportive when they see clover dominating and it removes potential obstruction for bow hunters who hunt the kill plots.

When a clover plot get old and grasses start to dominate in the fall, I will sometimes use a modified version of the Ed Spin method and suppress the clover with 1 qt/ac gly while killing grasses. I then use a little no-till drill to drill GHR and sometimes WR into the suppressed clover. This seems to extend the useful life of the clover field by a few years, but eventually, even with weed tolerance, it is good to rotate.

Thanks,

Jack
 
Good discussion Jack. I had a guy on another forum the other day state that his clover field was full of dog fennel. He says, surprisingly my clover underneath is doing great!....but there’s a lot of dog fennel. My thoughts were……What’s the problem?.....It’s August in the deep south, most people’s clover is dormant right now. I offered the suggestion that maybe the dog fennel was offering the clover midday shade and that the two plants were actually beneficial to one another. I’ve noticed big flushes of dog fennel is really common following a really good stand of clover. Makes me wonder if the dog fennel likes the free N in the soil produced from the mono of clover and is scavenging it and producing high C:N organic matter with it……but I’m getting off into left field a little.


The part of it the story that is gonna be the most difficult for folks to overcome is our idea of what a food plot is supposed to look like and what is bad and what it good. The guy in the story was telling me that his clover was thriving and doing great in the heat of the summer, yet his brain had trained him to think that the dog fennel was bad and he needed to take immediate action…..so he removed the dog fennel canopy in August with it in the upper 90’s. Why?.....So it would it look pretty. The field didn’t need touching until early fall and even then you probably could have just let nature terminate the dog fennel and release the clover. Nature tends to know what it’s doing even if we don’t trust her sometimes.

Points well taken Crimson, but let me take it a step further. Chicory is also a tall weed that thrives on the nitrogen from the clover, give the clover mid day shade, and is extremely heat tolerant. But is also relished by the deer and good for the deer - unlike dog fennel. In a case like that I would be trying to kill the DF and replace it with something good - like chicory.

People who have followed my threads know that I am a big proponent of weeds (good weeds) for feeding deer. We can't eliminate all of the bad ones, but we also don't need to let them spread and gain the advantage. If you let "...nature terminate..." DF, you are going to get more and more of it because it goes to seed and is very aggressive.

Not wanting to start an argument, but just stating my position on promoting the good and keeping the bad at a disadvantage. Your idea of companion plants complementing each other is right down the line of how I think, but I just want to promote plants that help with my goals.

Thanks - Steve
 
Great post ^^^ Native!!!! I was thinking along the same lines. I would not allow a weed to just "run it's course", just for the sake of doing so, considering there are so many that could cause potential issues that it could mean a solid takeover of said weed if one was not careful and the fact that many can fill the same "niche" as others, with some being way more beneficial.

What we need to promote is "smartly" evolving wildlife habitat.
 
Great post ^^^ Native!!!! I was thinking along the same lines. I would not allow a weed to just "run it's course", just for the sake of doing so, considering there are so many that could cause potential issues that it could mean a solid takeover of said weed if one was not careful and the fact that many can fill the same "niche" as others, with some being way more beneficial.

What we need to promote is "smartly" evolving wildlife habitat.

Yes indeed. Cattle farmers in my area have understood this concept and reacted to it ever since I can remember. Their cattle go through a pasture field and eat the good stuff and leave the bad stuff growing. Ironweed is a good example in my area, but there are several others. That's why at some point in the year farmers go through their pastures with the bushhog and clip the untouched stuff before it seeds. They realize that with the good stuff constantly being devoured that the bad stuff will keep gaining an advantage. They do the hogging to bring balance back to what is happening. They aren't doing it for the aesthetics - they are doing it for the benefit of their pastures.

To some extent, the same thing is happening in every food plot. Be it mowing, spraying, pulling or whatever, something will need to be done.
 
Points well taken Crimson, but let me take it a step further. Chicory is also a tall weed that thrives on the nitrogen from the clover, give the clover mid day shade, and is extremely heat tolerant. But is also relished by the deer and good for the deer - unlike dog fennel. In a case like that I would be trying to kill the DF and replace it with something good - like chicory.

People who have followed my threads know that I am a big proponent of weeds (good weeds) for feeding deer. We can't eliminate all of the bad ones, but we also don't need to let them spread and gain the advantage. If you let "...nature terminate..." DF, you are going to get more and more of it because it goes to seed and is very aggressive.

Not wanting to start an argument, but just stating my position on promoting the good and keeping the bad at a disadvantage. Your idea of companion plants complementing each other is right down the line of how I think, but I just want to promote plants that help with my goals.

Thanks - Steve

Steve,

Your point is well taken. So far, I have not seen an increase in weeds because of not mowing. My clover fields seem to have about the same life span. I used to mix chicory when I planted ladino but found the benefit was much less when I moved to Durana. I also think there is a difference in grazing land where livestock select plants. In some ways they act as a selective herbicide (and fertilizing machine) advantaging some plants over others. Free ranging animals tend to have less of this affect. I think over time things tend to balance out. Again, I'm starting to think of my clover plots more as wildlife openings kept in early succession with two (right now) annual mowings that start as a clover base and evolve over time until it is time to lather-rinse-repeat.

Thanks,

Jack
 
Steve,

Your point is well taken. So far, I have not seen an increase in weeds because of not mowing. My clover fields seem to have about the same life span. I used to mix chicory when I planted ladino but found the benefit was much less when I moved to Durana. I also think there is a difference in grazing land where livestock select plants. In some ways they act as a selective herbicide (and fertilizing machine) advantaging some plants over others. Free ranging animals tend to have less of this affect. I think over time things tend to balance out. Again, I'm starting to think of my clover plots more as wildlife openings kept in early succession with two (right now) annual mowings that start as a clover base and evolve over time until it is time to lather-rinse-repeat.

Thanks,

Jack

Jack, I'm glad you aren't having any serious weed problems. Of course you are doing some mowing, and I'm sure you are doing a good job with timing, so that does help.

But, the subject matter we are discussing depends on a multitude of factors - crop being grown, soil fertility, presence of unwanted species, deer density which controls the amount of browsing on desirable species, adaption to the site by all/any species present, and several other things.

To my point, I don't think letting DF go to seed in a place that it likes is going to end up being a good thing in the long run. And, I might add that there is no need to let it happen, because one strategically timed mowing can wreak havoc on its ability to continue.

My experience tells me that it is generally not the tall plants like DF, goldenrod, ironweed, horseweed, etc. that are the problem in clover food plots (although they can be a serious problem in pastures). They would be a problem in plots if they weren't managed, but they are pretty easy to manage. The problem weeds are those like smartweed, perilla, bur clover and others that hug the ground (and survive mowing well) and are very good at taking space that we would like for our clover, alfalfa, etc. to have. These can be managed to, but much harder to do.

Thanks - Steve
 
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Steve,

Your point is well taken. There are some noxious weeds that can really become problematic in some cases. I'm not suggesting ignoring them. I'm more suggesting triage. First, figure out if the plant is really a weed for the manager. Does it benefit deer, other wildlife, soil...? Is the weed causing a problem? Does it reduce yield beyond the tipping point? The only quality foods that benefit deer are those that end up in their stomachs. Having quality foods far beyond what your deer herd are consuming are not really benefiting the herd. So, a simple reduction in yield is not enough reason to combat weeds. They need to reduce yield enough to have an impact. What will happen when I eliminate this weed? Nature abhors a vacuum. Something will likely take its place. Will it be a desirable plant or an even more noxious weed. In other words, do some weeds keep worse weeds from taking over?

I'm advocating a more thoughtful approach to weeds than the average food plotter takes (and I used to take in my early years). We are not farmers and don't have the same objectives. I'm not saying that weeds are never a problem and we should ignore them. I'm saying most have a knee jerk reaction to "weeds". I actually want to remove the word "weed" from my thinking and replace it with native or naturalized plant. Some of these plants can be an asset to my program, some are neutral, and some are a detriment and may need to be controlled.

When a food plotter sees something growing in his field other than his crop, I don't wan their first thought to be "weed".

Thanks,

Jack
 
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